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Tue, Jun 5, 2007 0:22 EDT

Startup moving from India to the US to save money! (no, this is not a typo)

Topic: IT Organization Management

Current Rating: 5 Comments: 6

Riya, a very interesting startup that evolved into like.com just moved its development team from India to the US to save money. They don’t seem to be the only one: I heard a similar story from another small startup recently. This is a perfect example of what I was trying to explain in my post “Why globalization does not mean your job will get outsourced to India.” You can’t just look at labor cost differentials: you have to look at total cost differentials.

Munjal Shah, the CEO of Riya points out in his blog that for some programmers, the salary rapidly rose to 55% of US salaries. He writes: “Bangalore wages have just been growing like crazy. To give you an example, there is an employee of ours who took the first 5 years of his career to get from 1% to 10% of his equivalent US counterpart. He then jumped from 10% to 20% of his US counterpart in the next 1 year. During his time with us (less than 2 years) he jumped to 55% of the US wage.

In the next few months we would have had to move him to 75% just to ‘keep him at market.’” Once the salary rises to 75% of US salaries, the overhead cost differences between India and the US would overwhelm the financial viability. Consider the additional overhead of managing two offices, flying between the two centers, dealing with the cultural differences, etc. Munjal writes: “The costs of having two offices, which are twelve time zones apart, is significant. People in both offices frequently had conference calls at 10pm and midnight every night (as a result the office in the US didn’t get started until noon sometimes or people rolled in tired). We were all traveling constantly. Development and communication moved slower due to the distance and teams.”

This problem is actually especially bad for startups, because:

  • Lack of scale: Larger firms can compensate for Indian infrastructure problems. Public transportation is unviable? Driving takes too long? The company bus or chauffeured car will ferry you between home and office. Electricity supply is intermittent? The company has enough electricity generation capacity to last days. Startups can’t afford to compensate for these problems as effectively.
  • Speed of change & high cost of errors: By definition startups
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Tue, Jun 5, 2007 13:56 EDT
Posted by: Diversity
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Can you study VOIP utilizing the same bandwidth for video stream live... Sounds like you need to badly.

 
Wed, Jun 6, 2007 10:27 EDT
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It's true that salary gaps is narrowing between india and US.But that is in Banglore and other mteros of south.Some to Calcutta or smaller city like, Bhuwneshwar , Chandigarh,Jamshedpur etc and you will salary is resonable.I don't understand why every one wants to go to Banglore and if you want to be in SFO then pay for that.

 
Thu, Jun 7, 2007 3:31 EDT
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Posted by: Mangkaru
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One of the solutions is to move to other places in the region such as Colombo, Sri Lanka. We had several customers coming in from India to us (in Colombo).

 
Fri, Jun 15, 2007 16:40 EDT
Anonymous user
Posted by: Anonymous
Rating: 10

Until the salaries there go up too. Each new city represents a temporary advantage which will deplete with use. Which is, after all, the moral of the story for offshoring as a whole. And for that temporary advantage (can you say good-looking-quarterly-numbers-so-that-I-get-my-stock-options-and-then-I'm-out-of-here?), you destroy your native infrastructure. Smart.....

 
Thu, Jan 3, 2008 7:52 EST
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Posted by: kunalSingh
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completely true. I had been sensing similar problems for long:
Through this blog entry

But do you know the following facts:
(1) Branded products (Nike, Reebok, Arrow, Lee ....) in Bangalore are costlier as compared to that in USA (for same model).
(2) A car in Bangalore is costlier than in USA (for same model).
(3) Petrol in Bangalore is costlier than in USA.
(4) House rentals in Bangalore are higher than in a USA suburb (for same facilities).
(5) Stay in a Three Start hotel in Bangalore is costlier than in a similar hotel (with same facilities) in USA.
...
Then the IT salary hikes are unavoidable. However there will be repercussions:
(a) Service companies (which work on outsourcing model) will find it tough to maintain their profits.
(b) Indian centers will need to become independent from USA counterparts.
(c) Engineers will have to raise their quality and efficiency (to match the USA work force)
...

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